Well those pendraken WSS figures were to much to resist.
Again the rules will be Black Powder. the questinon is, how to do it.
I have two options
1. Single base units, this is diffrent then the default rules, but since WSS is very liniear it might not be a problem, the base will be 30x50mm, with 30 figures in 3 ranks, this means lots of battalions, something like 25 battalions and 18 regiments of horse, but I don't think BP works that well with so many units, atleast not unless you got sevral players, but as you know, norway has a lack of players.
2. Two base units, this lets me do very basic formation changes, if I want square I plase it back to back, or one after another to make "columns" this means 60 figures pr. unit, and alot less units, mabye 12-14 battalions and 10 regiments of horse. Now 60 soldiers in 3 ranks will looks very cool.
So what should I do?
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Saturday, October 30, 2010
Saturday, October 23, 2010
10mm Pictures AWI
Well I've now finished 6 units, and that means a mini photo shoot.
4th Regiment of foot.
4th Regiment of foot.
Thursday, October 21, 2010
42nd highlanders
Another unit I have painted sevral times, once in 15mm, and once in 28mm, and half a unit in 40mm. But they have all been Napoleonics
This time it's AWI, but that also means no Kilt, but you still need to paint those pain in the ass bonnets. This will be a big 24 strong unit, but I still need command figs so it's 20 untill futher notice.
The AWI is a space demanding period, atleat if you do it right, these 20 figures take up 10cm, I can get 24 15mm on 9cm so this time 10mm is bigger then 15mm.
But I didn't buy the 10mm Pendraken for the small size I bought them becasue I feel they are better then any 15mm AWI range I have seen.
Here's what I've got so far.
This time it's AWI, but that also means no Kilt, but you still need to paint those pain in the ass bonnets. This will be a big 24 strong unit, but I still need command figs so it's 20 untill futher notice.
The AWI is a space demanding period, atleat if you do it right, these 20 figures take up 10cm, I can get 24 15mm on 9cm so this time 10mm is bigger then 15mm.
But I didn't buy the 10mm Pendraken for the small size I bought them becasue I feel they are better then any 15mm AWI range I have seen.
Here's what I've got so far.
Almost finished Rifles
I still need a standard bearer, so I left room for that.
Here's just som fun with photoshop
Here's just som fun with photoshop
Tuesday, October 19, 2010
The 23rd regiment of foot
For the 6th time,
So far I've done it in 6mm twice, once for 7YW once for AWI, I've also done it in 28mm AWI, 40mm AWI and 15mm Napoleoincs and now finnaly 10mm AWI,
Thats 4 times just for AWI,
They are in thier campaign dress, with shell jackets, slouch hats,
I'm also working on fences for 10mm, it's just 15mm fences with two less logs.
So far I've done it in 6mm twice, once for 7YW once for AWI, I've also done it in 28mm AWI, 40mm AWI and 15mm Napoleoincs and now finnaly 10mm AWI,
Thats 4 times just for AWI,
They are in thier campaign dress, with shell jackets, slouch hats,
I'm also working on fences for 10mm, it's just 15mm fences with two less logs.
10mm AWI Pendraken
Aperantly there are two types of 10mm, you got the upscaled 6mm, really OG TWI is this type, not realy any more detailed then 6mm, but benefit for bigger mass so 100 10mm looks more real then 6mm, hell OG 10mm, actauly take less space then Baccus 6mm,
I get 50 OG 10mm on 120mm frontage, but I only get 48 baccus on the same frontage.
Any, you do get another type of 10mm, and thats downscaled 15mm. Well realy downscaled 18mm, becasue frankly only 18AB can supass this range.
They are SUPER detailed, much more detailed then your low end 15mm, you get musket straps, something that is often absent form less detailed 15mm, you get all the gear, like canteen, scatchel bag ect. hell even bands on they hats are there, Now there is a problem taking pics of these, becaue they are so small you need to get realy close to show all the super fine detailes, and that means UGLY if 15mm dosn't look good upclose with macro on the camra you can imagien the 10mm, but these figs are realy realy nice. They are 15mm but half the size, no comprimisses has been done, they are exactly half the hight of AB Napoleoincs, but only a quarter as massive if not even less.
This is kinda like AB in 15mm, I can get a good paint job on AB, but not on OG, I simply need good figures to do a good job, I know people that can make OG look superb but I can't it's the same with 10mm, my OG looks eh, my Pendarken looks good(not geat)
Anyway here are the pics, they are based on 20x20mm squares to give the semi open order feel.
As you can see even the hatband is on the sculpts
I get 50 OG 10mm on 120mm frontage, but I only get 48 baccus on the same frontage.
Any, you do get another type of 10mm, and thats downscaled 15mm. Well realy downscaled 18mm, becasue frankly only 18AB can supass this range.
They are SUPER detailed, much more detailed then your low end 15mm, you get musket straps, something that is often absent form less detailed 15mm, you get all the gear, like canteen, scatchel bag ect. hell even bands on they hats are there, Now there is a problem taking pics of these, becaue they are so small you need to get realy close to show all the super fine detailes, and that means UGLY if 15mm dosn't look good upclose with macro on the camra you can imagien the 10mm, but these figs are realy realy nice. They are 15mm but half the size, no comprimisses has been done, they are exactly half the hight of AB Napoleoincs, but only a quarter as massive if not even less.
This is kinda like AB in 15mm, I can get a good paint job on AB, but not on OG, I simply need good figures to do a good job, I know people that can make OG look superb but I can't it's the same with 10mm, my OG looks eh, my Pendarken looks good(not geat)
Anyway here are the pics, they are based on 20x20mm squares to give the semi open order feel.
As you can see even the hatband is on the sculpts
Tuesday, October 5, 2010
The advantages of my basing and a little secret.
Well I found out I actualy got to wargaming related secrets, so I'll reveal my first and smallest, but keep the bigger one.
Also some boring numbers about my basing.
For ease I'm only gonna use my 28mm baseing, but I do simular stuff for my 15mm.
Now my baseing has one big and one small advantage, and some what I think are minor disadvantages(tho for some these will be to big to use my type of baseing)
The first and biggest is of course space saving, just to how how much.
Lets say you got a unit of 30 28mm figures, with the standard 45x45mm base with 6 figures on it, this will be 22.5cm frontage, while my 32 figures will be on 50mm base with 8 on each, that is 20cm, a tiny saving of 2.5cm, not a lot but with 12 battalions that is 30cm saving, or a foot,
If you use 32 figure battalions with my basing, instead of 36 figues you save a wooping 84 cm.
But lets say you have small battalions of 24, in 6 by 4 you need 18cm, with my 8 by 3, you need 15, with 12 battalions or 36cm saved, if you got a big corps sized game, you save mabye more then 72cm frontage.
But then mabye you got huge 40 and 48 figure austrian battalions. a 48 figure battalion in 6 by 8 you need 36 cm, with my 8 by 6 you need 30, or 72 cm saved with 12 battalions.
As you can see you save alot of space, the more or bigger battalions you have, the more space you save. even with small 24 figure battalions, you basicly make your table a foot longer.
Now the second and smaller advantage is more massive units, they are really shoulder to shoulder, and get the true napoleoinc feel,
Now there are some disatvantages, I'm pernonaly to lazy to use more then one basetype(I do in 15mm but not in 28)
This means I'm stuck with 24, 32, 40, 48 and 56 figre battalions, that means I miss out on the often used 36 figure battalion, now there is nothing stopping you from useing 40mm bases instead of the standard 4.5 with 6 figures, you get some of the same effects, more closed formations and you save 5mm pr. base, means a 36 figure unit would be 3cm less frontage,
That is an option, then use 8 on 50mm bases for the other sizes.
The second disadvantage is not all figures are small enough, I found that perry/victrix work fine, OG 2nd edition works really well they take like no room, even front rank works, but calpe is a problem I do get them there, but they bases don't go perfectly togeather, so there is a little room bestween each base,
And finnaly a lot of people don't like so massive bases, they like to make a mini diorama on each base, mabye a casualty ect, stuff that takes alot of room.
Now with that boring number talk over with I'll reveal my little secret.
No I'm not Sadam Hussein hiding in Norway, as I said it was wargaming related.
So what is it, Drumm roll...................... birrrrrrrrrrrrr
Tish
Battle of Brandywine IN 10mm, the plan is to do Knyphausen's battle for British grenadier.
I've choosen 10mm, becasue 1, since I'm allready doing The Alamo in 10mm, I'm damned allready so I might as well go to hell with a bang, 2 I think Pendraken 10mm, actualy look better then most 15mm AWI ranges(mabye only the 15mm that is better is peter pig, but the range is very small) Pendarken got the campaign uniforms for the british and got hessain ect.
Really Pendraken is 10mm version of perry's 28mm range, now I got some picutres of other peoples work with pendraken, but I don't want to post other peoples work with out premission, but the pictures look fantastic, really like the best of 15mm, only in 10mm.
I'm gonna go away from my patented baseing, since we all know by now, that British and americans fought in semi open order, so I'm gonna base 4 figures to a 20mm square base, thats not close at all in 10mm, so it should look ok, this does mean that my 10mm, will not be any more space saving then 15mm, so I will play my battles with 15mm, scales, which my my battles won't be any bigger then a 15mm BG battle. That means I can only do one part of the battle of brandywine, I had faint hope of doing the WHOLE battle, both flanks in 10mm, but it just won't do, mabye with a 8x6 table, but not with a 4x7 table, But that does mean I got a clear goal and not sevral thousand figures to paint, it's still a little under 600 figures, but that is still quite alot less then the 13 000 6mm projects I got, or the 3000 15mm project, or the 2500 for my 28mm projects.
So I'm exited, it will be fun, it's not an endles stream of figures to paint, it's clear infront of me. And it will be fun to get back into AWI this is of course my 4th scale in AWI and my 5th project for that period. But we don't talk about that.
Also some boring numbers about my basing.
For ease I'm only gonna use my 28mm baseing, but I do simular stuff for my 15mm.
Now my baseing has one big and one small advantage, and some what I think are minor disadvantages(tho for some these will be to big to use my type of baseing)
The first and biggest is of course space saving, just to how how much.
Lets say you got a unit of 30 28mm figures, with the standard 45x45mm base with 6 figures on it, this will be 22.5cm frontage, while my 32 figures will be on 50mm base with 8 on each, that is 20cm, a tiny saving of 2.5cm, not a lot but with 12 battalions that is 30cm saving, or a foot,
If you use 32 figure battalions with my basing, instead of 36 figues you save a wooping 84 cm.
But lets say you have small battalions of 24, in 6 by 4 you need 18cm, with my 8 by 3, you need 15, with 12 battalions or 36cm saved, if you got a big corps sized game, you save mabye more then 72cm frontage.
But then mabye you got huge 40 and 48 figure austrian battalions. a 48 figure battalion in 6 by 8 you need 36 cm, with my 8 by 6 you need 30, or 72 cm saved with 12 battalions.
As you can see you save alot of space, the more or bigger battalions you have, the more space you save. even with small 24 figure battalions, you basicly make your table a foot longer.
Now the second and smaller advantage is more massive units, they are really shoulder to shoulder, and get the true napoleoinc feel,
Now there are some disatvantages, I'm pernonaly to lazy to use more then one basetype(I do in 15mm but not in 28)
This means I'm stuck with 24, 32, 40, 48 and 56 figre battalions, that means I miss out on the often used 36 figure battalion, now there is nothing stopping you from useing 40mm bases instead of the standard 4.5 with 6 figures, you get some of the same effects, more closed formations and you save 5mm pr. base, means a 36 figure unit would be 3cm less frontage,
That is an option, then use 8 on 50mm bases for the other sizes.
The second disadvantage is not all figures are small enough, I found that perry/victrix work fine, OG 2nd edition works really well they take like no room, even front rank works, but calpe is a problem I do get them there, but they bases don't go perfectly togeather, so there is a little room bestween each base,
And finnaly a lot of people don't like so massive bases, they like to make a mini diorama on each base, mabye a casualty ect, stuff that takes alot of room.
Now with that boring number talk over with I'll reveal my little secret.
No I'm not Sadam Hussein hiding in Norway, as I said it was wargaming related.
So what is it, Drumm roll...................... birrrrrrrrrrrrr
Tish
Battle of Brandywine IN 10mm, the plan is to do Knyphausen's battle for British grenadier.
I've choosen 10mm, becasue 1, since I'm allready doing The Alamo in 10mm, I'm damned allready so I might as well go to hell with a bang, 2 I think Pendraken 10mm, actualy look better then most 15mm AWI ranges(mabye only the 15mm that is better is peter pig, but the range is very small) Pendarken got the campaign uniforms for the british and got hessain ect.
Really Pendraken is 10mm version of perry's 28mm range, now I got some picutres of other peoples work with pendraken, but I don't want to post other peoples work with out premission, but the pictures look fantastic, really like the best of 15mm, only in 10mm.
I'm gonna go away from my patented baseing, since we all know by now, that British and americans fought in semi open order, so I'm gonna base 4 figures to a 20mm square base, thats not close at all in 10mm, so it should look ok, this does mean that my 10mm, will not be any more space saving then 15mm, so I will play my battles with 15mm, scales, which my my battles won't be any bigger then a 15mm BG battle. That means I can only do one part of the battle of brandywine, I had faint hope of doing the WHOLE battle, both flanks in 10mm, but it just won't do, mabye with a 8x6 table, but not with a 4x7 table, But that does mean I got a clear goal and not sevral thousand figures to paint, it's still a little under 600 figures, but that is still quite alot less then the 13 000 6mm projects I got, or the 3000 15mm project, or the 2500 for my 28mm projects.
So I'm exited, it will be fun, it's not an endles stream of figures to paint, it's clear infront of me. And it will be fun to get back into AWI this is of course my 4th scale in AWI and my 5th project for that period. But we don't talk about that.
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